Wednesday, July 21, 2010

July Frisbee Tip


Well... I'm having trouble with Blogger... I can't seem to figure out all this picture sizing detail. :P But here it is! You didn't think I'd forget to give you a tip, right?! But I had to put my thougths into a picture somehow, so I used "Paint" which is a free Windows thing where you can draw stuff.

So that brings me to my tip - Use the Cross Pass! It's amazing how people can get open from other people all because the Frisbee moved! See what I mean -

I don't know if you can see it well or not, but there's the yellow star (which we'll assume is you), black stars (on the opposite team - numbered 1,2,3), and white stars (your teammates - A,B,C). In this figure you can either throw it to C - a terribly hard throw, especially if you want to get it inside the cones... You'd have to worry about 3 blocking you immediately, and if it goes past... There's 2 just waiting to block it. (2 btw, is watching you to see if you're throwing it to B or C... 3's guarding you, 1's watching for A to break up the sidelines and into the end zone or across the field in front of you.) Soooo.... What's the best throw?

You just threw it to A... A didn't hardly have to move, while 1 couldn't get in front fast enough (as he was waiting for A to move somewhere else), so 1 is now guarding A... B & C are still splitting the end-zone, you moved a little closer to A (just in case any of the next throws won't work for some reason), 3 is making sure you don't go back into the end-zone past him - which leaves you open for a potential pass if A can't get it to someone else... 2 then moves into a position similar to the first one - although now that you've moved the field he can't get into as good of a position anywhere.

In this diagram, A should either throw it to B or C for the point! If let's say 2 is guarding C - then As best throw is to B (even if it's a hammer or curve shot). If 2 is guarding B - he should throw it to C as a floater just past him... Not too high as 2 can still come in to block it, but if you put it low, you might risk the chance of 3 coming and knocking it down.

The cross pass makes sure that the defenders see the field differently, and gives you the hope that they don't get into good positions fast enough. If there are more defenders than I put in my diagrams, you have to either work your way up the field (always threatening to go deep) with one or more other players, or try and get in a trick-shot! :) I've done those too many times - and given the defense reason to celebrate after most of those shots... although there is the occasional good shot that you'll get past the other team. It's almost worth the risk to make those shots. :)

Well... That was a long tip, but I wanted to illustrate a scenario I've seen a LOT over the years! Granted, some Frisbee groups play man-to-man, but for Friday Frisbee... This is one play I've seen a lot.

~Frisbeeman

7 comments:

  1. Nice!

    Yeah, I've seen that a lot. Whatever you do, don't try and force it. You need to get A's attention and get him moving in before the defender picks it up and tries to cutoff. when he comes over, don't baby the throw. Execute with speed and confidence.

    Comment: In the third diagram, after "you" has thrown the frisbee (terrible grammar, no?)"you" should fall back a bit to make sure A has a clear line to C. B should at the same time move left, and fake a motion to recieve, such as raising pointer finger above head. At the same time, A should fake to B and the throw a low, fast forehand to C with a slight right-to-left hook on it, up a little and not too much break. This takes battlefield awareness, of course. But whatever "you" does, he needs to make sure that he keeps 3 busy and away from the incoming line.

    A lot of good situations are ruined because these "passing lanes" (such as the a-c line in the third diagram) are broken off by people who are a little over-anxious, making it impossible to get off the throw without smacking somebody in the face with a Frisbee.

    This is fun! I love hashing out tactical scenarios. (Hint, hint)

    Andy Romanowitz

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  2. Yep... That's what I was thinking when I made this... Namely, that "you" can get in the way of the pass to C. What "you" needs to do is run somehwere where he's out of the way, but can still be in a good position to move the Frisbee around if he's needed to.

    This play especially works if you execute it quickly! If you can get the runners on your team up on the offensive side, it's more than likely that you'll come out a point higher. :)

    As to A faking to B and then throwing to C... I'll make the fake a tip for another month. ;)

    ~Frisbeeman

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  3. BTW What are your impressions on using blogger? I am considering starting a blog.

    Andy R.

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  4. I like it... once you make your blog, you can start signing in at draft.blogger.com and that will take you to the version of Blogger that lets you try out (and use!) all the new features that they're still working on.

    ~Frisbeeman

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  5. What if the opposite were true, lets say that the defense has 4 player and the offense only has 3?

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  6. Well, in that case the defense would probably be playing man-to-man with one guy watching deep (zone). And the offense would find that the best way to get in a score is to run really fast and make lots of cut-backs, and the thrower has to make some really good throws... but yes, if that was the case, crossing it would be just as effective as long as you can do it faster and with a lot of accuracy.

    In that scenario, you almost have to start running (to get as far ahead of the defender as you can) as soon as you throw the Frisbee.

    ~Frisbeeman

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  7. Sometimes your only option is to attempt to force it in to the endzone by having a receiver make a fast move, and then pulling off a quick throw.

    If you're under heavy defensive pressure, and you have a long way to go, I have a favorite saying which applies to the situation: "If you're gonna blow it, blow it long." This, at least, makes things harder for the opposing team by putting more space between them and the end zone you are defending.

    Andy R.

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